Charity : Harm Or Good? |
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Charity : Harm Or Good? |
May 29 2007, 07:50 PM
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Jatti di Shaan vakhri Group: DDF Clubbie Posts: 17,217 Joined: 24-December 06 From: Canada Member No.: 133,629 Reputation: 54293 pts: ![]() |
Does giving charity harm people in the long run by creating a dependence if not,are we sure that what we give is given to the people most in need?
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May 31 2007, 09:00 PM
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Desi Baby ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 18 Joined: 31-May 07 Member No.: 175,938 Reputation: -20 pts: ![]() |
Does giving charity harm people in the long run by creating a dependence if not,are we sure that what we give is given to the people most in need?
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Jun 1 2007, 12:54 AM
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Jatti di Shaan vakhri Group: DDF Clubbie Posts: 17,217 Joined: 24-December 06 From: Canada Member No.: 133,629 Reputation: 54293 pts: ![]() |
QUOTE(sran2006 @ May 31 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]1611989[/snapback] Does giving charity harm people in the long run by creating a dependence if not,are we sure that what we give is given to the people most in need? wow u such a douchebag |
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Jun 2 2007, 09:57 PM
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Flirt Group: Active Desi Posts: 853 Joined: 10-May 07 From: Nagpur Member No.: 165,998 Reputation: 4972 pts: ![]() |
Many people get judgemental about the validity of their charity. They wanna know if the other person/institution is putting it to proper use that it was intended for. its always nice to use your entire wisdom while making a charity. And once you have taken the decision to do some charity, then close your mind about it, dont do a post-audit about it. Charity is a good deed and good people keep the world going round by doing charity to needful people. After reading "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand, I have come to firmly believe that there are always many good people in this world who take upon their shoulders, the onus of the mediocres. I dont think doing charity makes anybody dependent as long as you make them realise the value of what they are getting. As a thumbrule I give alms only to beggars who are either very old , or physically challenged. NEVER TIP AN ABLE BODIED YOUNG BEGGAR OR A CHILD BEGGAR, YOU COULD BE PROVIDING HIM A BEGGING CAREER.
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Jun 3 2007, 08:46 PM
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Jatti di Shaan vakhri Group: DDF Clubbie Posts: 17,217 Joined: 24-December 06 From: Canada Member No.: 133,629 Reputation: 54293 pts: ![]() |
QUOTE(tigerclassic @ Jun 2 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]1618267[/snapback] Many people get judgemental about the validity of their charity. They wanna know if the other person/institution is putting it to proper use that it was intended for. its always nice to use your entire wisdom while making a charity. And once you have taken the decision to do some charity, then close your mind about it, dont do a post-audit about it. Charity is a good deed and good people keep the world going round by doing charity to needful people. After reading "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand, I have come to firmly believe that there are always many good people in this world who take upon their shoulders, the onus of the mediocres. I dont think doing charity makes anybody dependent as long as you make them realise the value of what they are getting. As a thumbrule I give alms only to beggars who are either very old , or physically challenged. NEVER TIP AN ABLE BODIED YOUNG BEGGAR OR A CHILD BEGGAR, YOU COULD BE PROVIDING HIM A BEGGING CAREER. dats exactly what my dad says I think dat reply sums up everything about this topic ... Charity to some extent is harmful...I think it all comes down do to whom the charity is being given to...what kind of organization or person...coz some of them might not actually need a hell lotta money while some other organization like World Vision..who use their money to sponsor poor abandoned kids in Africa are the ones who actually need. I started this topic coz our Maths Class sponsored a child in Africa...we do this every year and it always gives me thoughts..is it really worth it? How do i know that our money will be utilized for the good..but as tiger said ...close your mind..its done..now we can't change it ! |
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Jun 3 2007, 09:19 PM
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Stoneheart Group: Posts: 13,161 Joined: 7-January 06 From: Arrogantland Member No.: 64,269 Reputation: 60738 pts: ![]() |
TigerClassic is on the button
& there's a saying, "when u do charity, don't even let ur left hand know what ur right hand has done" |
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Jun 7 2007, 06:45 PM
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Flirt Group: Active Desi Posts: 853 Joined: 10-May 07 From: Nagpur Member No.: 165,998 Reputation: 4972 pts: ![]() |
hehe its good to sound like ur dad, KP. King was that right hand -left hand remark for KP?
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Jun 8 2007, 01:13 AM
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Stoneheart Group: Posts: 13,161 Joined: 7-January 06 From: Arrogantland Member No.: 64,269 Reputation: 60738 pts: ![]() |
said it generally
hate reading the smallest details of every1's charity in the newspapers these days moronic celebs saying how important this/that cause is |
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Jun 8 2007, 11:59 AM
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Playboy! Group: Posts: 18,025 Joined: 9-June 05 Member No.: 17,963 Reputation: 36815 pts: ![]() |
I have a very good frnd whom I bump into everyday on my way to office. He is a young boy, Jahangir, who sells the clothes for cleaning / wiping vehicles for 10 bucks a piece. He also sells some teeny weeny gadgets for cars. I helped him couple of times financially because I see this kid carrying a huge load of the wash clothes and moving whole day inspite of the heat / rain / cold. Now he makes arnd 300-400 bucks daily. Everyday morning we exchange few words when I stop at the signal. I feel good to see such examples.
And I also see several beggars at that junction but have never given any alm except for one very old lady who is physically challenged. I agree that giving alms to ppl who can find a way to live is making them career beggars. And it is a huge mafia where kids are trained to beg. I have not seen Traffic Signal but I think Madhur Bhandarkar tried to show the real story behind the begging mafia. (Not sure though). The less we talk abt the charity by the socialites / P3Ps, the better. For them a cause is only worthy if it can get them some sound bites / views on TV / Media. |
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Jul 23 2007, 01:48 AM
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Desi Teenager Group: Desi Member Posts: 51 Joined: 20-July 07 Member No.: 199,198 Reputation: none: ![]() |
If you give money to a homeless person on the street, they're probably just going to spend it on drugs or alcohol, which is probably what got them on the street in the first place. They need to get a job at a business, not sit around street corners. Only 5% of employed people live under the poverty line.
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Jul 27 2007, 06:12 PM
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Desi Teenager Group: Desi Member Posts: 51 Joined: 25-July 07 Member No.: 200,904 Reputation: 20 pts: ![]() |
Should teach them some skills on how to earn a living instead of provide charity which will create dependance
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Aug 5 2007, 09:04 PM
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Desi Teenager Group: Desi Member Posts: 52 Joined: 5-August 07 Member No.: 204,793 Reputation: 20 pts: ![]() |
I dont think it creates dependence if they're children they kind of need it
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Aug 14 2007, 12:32 AM
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videsi meow Group: Super Donor Posts: 1,978 Joined: 13-August 07 Member No.: 208,454 Reputation: 25220 pts: ![]() |
I can't add much more, TigerClassic was exact and well-saying. The healthy and young could become a
'professional' beggar. And giving money to kids only makes it more profitable for those who exploit them, sending them on the streets. |
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Aug 25 2007, 01:45 AM
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Desi Teenager Group: Desi Member Posts: 100 Joined: 25-August 07 Member No.: 213,429 Reputation: 60 pts: ![]() |
without charity how will those in need ever get help?
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Sep 21 2007, 09:19 AM
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Desi Baby Group: Desi Newbie Posts: 6 Joined: 20-September 07 From: Canada Member No.: 225,012 Reputation: 20 pts: ![]() |
I agree that giving to less fortunate is an act that must continued...
Regarding people on the street: If people feel uncomfortable giving money to certain individuals, there are alternatives. For example, instead of giving money you can offer a granola bar (keeps some extra granola bars or those small packages of dads cookies in your backpack, offer an apple or banana, or if you have fare saver tickets for the bus you give that, or you can give them a free coupon for an item to some fast food place (keep some in your wallet.... you can give that to them instead... Yes, sometimes we get angry at druggies or people who use the money for other purposes that we do not agree with...even I have refused to give money because of my personal biases....but with further reflection..after discussing this topic....I think I would continue to give money or something else to the person in need.... firstly, I rather give a druggie money (hoping he would use it for food) than nothing at all, its better than him or her to getting desperate and committing crimes in order to get his or her high... It easy for society and even myself sometimes, to criticize or shun a person because of his/her habits.. but Ultimately we have not been in there situation, we do not know how it is like to be addicted to drugs.....yes it easy to blame them for their decisions, but have WE society done enough to HELP them go on the right path????....it easy to say: "go get a job" but has society given them the hand of guidance that they need???? Social programs, safe injection sites, community resources are needed to help these people.. When our uncle, brother, or sister, mother or father,......are on the wrong path (say addicted to drugs) we are always there to guide them, to make sure they continue on a positive path....many of us Don't give up...because we KNOW and UNDERSTAND their situation (each situation is unique and UNDERSTANDING someone is KEY) We know we can sometimes bring back (our loved ones) to a positive path? So how can we deny or misunderstand a person we are able to bring back?? (sorry went off topic) |
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Mar 15 2008, 03:32 AM
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Desi Teenager Group: Desi Member Posts: 50 Joined: 27-February 08 Member No.: 293,059 Reputation: 20 pts: ![]() |
well that all depends, if they dont abuse it, charity is great... although unfortunately people out there do.
I live in vegas, and its illegal to give money to a homeless person on the street, infact its illegal to give them your own food UNLESS you are part of a charitable organization... there are people in vegas who go around asking for money from tourists... a study was done... some make $80,000 a year... so unfortunately because of that, charity can unfortunately be bad |
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